tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29566846.post4105589389567515934..comments2023-11-05T01:45:58.784-07:00Comments on The Hesperado: Black and White -- and GrayHesperadohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10394374828751466705noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29566846.post-49949891671522293932016-02-10T20:32:46.570-08:002016-02-10T20:32:46.570-08:00Hi DP111,
I hope that you stay with us to comment...Hi DP111,<br /><br />I hope that you stay with us to comment. :)Eggheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29566846.post-11234842518498316692016-02-10T16:20:39.074-08:002016-02-10T16:20:39.074-08:00DP111..
Unfortunately, this will inflame the sit...DP111..<br /><br /><br />Unfortunately, this will inflame the situation even more among Muslims in the Muslim world, including Muslims in the West. Why I have no idea, as we are only trying to help the Islamic word, and bring it to the 21st century.<br /><br /><br />I don't think you have a clue what I was suggesting. None at all. <br /><br />Bye. Good luck.<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29566846.post-92161186332695291452016-02-10T12:27:28.637-08:002016-02-10T12:27:28.637-08:00[continued fro part 1 above]
The separation needs...[continued fro part 1 above]<br /><br /><i><b>The separation needs to take place without forced repatriation, if possible. Otherwise it will sully our civilisation for hundreds of years. The separation needs be voluntary.</b></i><br /><br />This indicates, logically, that DP111 does not see the situation as being dire enough to compel us to forcibly relocate Muslims outside the West. If he did see it as being that dire, he would agree we have to, and the question of whether doing so "sullies" our civilization would be agreed to be tragically irrelevant (just as our killing hundreds of thousands of German and Japanese men, women and children during WW2 was tragically irrelevant to the exigency of stopping the Axis powers, and furthermore did not "sully" our civilization. Ditto the internment of Japanese-American citizens).<br /><br /><i>We have to intervene in more Muslim countries, even more frequently, <b>to weed out the “radicals”, and to take liberal democracy to these unfortunate countries.</b></i><br /><br />This implies that Muslim demographics are separable into "radicals" and apparent "non-radicals". It also implies the <i>Lewis Doctrine</i> that Muslim countries are democratizable (I had to rub my eyes to see whether I was actually reading that from a Jihad Watch regular who has supposedly been educating himself on the problem of Muslims for years now, and yet would still apparently think the Lewis Doctrine is viable). See my article on the <i>Lewis Doctrine</i> here:<br /><br />http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-lewis-doctrine.html<br /><br />Finally (for now) we have this oddly revealing statement from DP111:<br /><br /><i>Unfortunately, this will inflame the situation even more among Muslims in the Muslim world, including Muslims in the West. <b>Why I have no idea, as we are only trying to help the Islamic word, and bring it to the 21st century.</b></i><br /><br />He has "no idea" why our Wilsonian intrusion to help Muslims only ends up inflaming them against us more? No idea, after reading Jihad Watch for years??? This indicates he doesn't have an adequate grasp of the problem, and thus why he is so ready to pull our punches with regard to the things we have to do to save our civilization from the grim destruction the Mohammedans intend for it in this coming century. And, given that most of the Counter-Jihad thinks like DP111 -- and the mainstream West is even more naively myopic -- I have lost hope we will last to the end of this 21st century. Nice gift y'all are bequeathing to your great grandchildren and/or to the great grandchildren of your loved ones.Hesperadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10394374828751466705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29566846.post-89421655994094768732016-02-10T12:24:49.765-08:002016-02-10T12:24:49.765-08:00"Spencer is doing sterling work in bringing t..."Spencer is doing sterling work in bringing the evil nature of Islam to the wider public. His editorial team though would look askance at controversial "comments", that harmed the repute of the site.<br /><br />That's not a reasonable justification for being excessively anxious about our PC MC Masters and their irrational demonization of the Counter-Jihad.<br /><br />"There other sites such Gates of Vienna, that too have their detractors, who feel that the GoV is pulling punches. My feelings are that as long as they are educating the public of the nature of Islam, then let them carry on as best as they can, with what they are comfortable with. "<br /><br />Of course you would feel this way, since you evidently don't see the nature of the problem as being as dire as those who advocate total deportation. For, if you did, you would never write such balderdash as you did not too long ago as a comment here on another article ("Quantum Stupidity" back on January 16).<br /><br /><i>Unless we have a separation of Islam and Muslims from the West, Western civilisation is finished. <b>The separation needs to take place without forced repatriation, if possible. Otherwise it will sully our civilisation for hundreds of years. The separation needs be voluntary.</b></i><br /><br /><i>A possible solution</i><br /><br /><i>1. We have to intervene in more Muslim countries, even more frequently, <b>to weed out the “radicals”, and to take liberal democracy to these unfortunate countries.</b> Unfortunately, this will inflame the situation even more among Muslims in the Muslim world, including Muslims in the West. <b>Why I have no idea, as we are only trying to help the Islamic word, and bring it to the 21st century.</b></i><br /><br /><i>2. At the same time, close the door to Muslim immigration to the West, which one sees is about to take place.</i><br /><br />The portions I bolded indicate nodal points of the nougaty depth of the balderdash. Thus:<br /><br />See part two below...<br /><br />Hesperadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10394374828751466705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29566846.post-3696205654689985982016-02-10T11:01:09.149-08:002016-02-10T11:01:09.149-08:00DP111..
I have said many a time, that Islam is wo...DP111..<br /><br /><i>I have said many a time, that Islam is worse then either Nazism or communism, even though the latter murdered more people then any other ideology in history</i><br /><br />I should have added, as I did later, in a shorter space of time then any other ideology. <br /><br />Spencer is doing sterling work in bringing the evil nature of Islam to the wider public. His editorial team though would look askance at controversial "comments", that harmed the repute of the site.<br /><br />There other sites such Gates of Vienna, that too have their detractors, who feel that the GoV is pulling punches. My feelings are that as long as they are educating the public of the nature of Islam, then let them carry on as best as they can, with what they are comfortable with. <br /><br />SheikhYarmani pulls no punches but he does not as large an audience as JW.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29566846.post-68771546826513379342016-02-10T10:44:22.112-08:002016-02-10T10:44:22.112-08:00From Egghead's second point:
"... the ev...From Egghead's second point:<br /><br />"... the evil of Marxism which, again, has been, is, and will be a primary entry point for Islam into the West..."<br /><br />I might be more amenable to being persuaded of such a thesis, if the one doing the persuading were able to explain a few things; including (to take one example out of many) how it is that members of the Voegelinian Society (just a bunch of professors & grad students in various places in Academe, as well as (like me) fans of Voegelin) tend overwhelmingly to follow the PC MC line on Islam (and largely only on that one issue). I need a plausible explanation for this curious phenomenon that would bridge the gap between --<br /><br />the evil of Marxism being the lever for the Islamophilia of the modern West<br /><br />and<br /><br />Voegelinians evidently succumbing to PC MC about Islam.<br /><br />The explanation would, naturally, account for the profoundly anti-Marxist temperament & analyses of Voegelin and his students, as well as their relative decency and intelligence.<br /><br />And, as I said, this is only one phenomenon that needs to be explained, to make that aforementioned thesis persuasive to me. Otherwise, it just doesn't add up.Hesperadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10394374828751466705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29566846.post-80295967644743929442016-02-10T10:18:37.604-08:002016-02-10T10:18:37.604-08:00"I have said many a time, that Islam is worse..."I have said many a time, that Islam is worse then either Nazism or communism, even though the latter murdered more people then any other ideology in history..."<br /><br />Incorrect. The Islamic ideology is responsible for over 250 million murders, as Bill Warner (and others) have estimated -- not to mention the enslavement, oppression, rapes, and physical & psychological torture of hundreds of millions more, for 14 centuries (and not only that, it is now undergoing a global revival to increasingly threaten the world and the West). As such, it dwarfs Nazism & Communism -- in numbers (of victims and of brainwashed perpetrators), grotesqueness, longevity, and global reach.Hesperadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10394374828751466705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29566846.post-75703220448522674782016-02-10T09:47:43.940-08:002016-02-10T09:47:43.940-08:00DP111..
Egghead
You have correctly identified th...DP111..<br /><br />Egghead<br /><br />You have correctly identified the weak points of the West.<br /><br />How to win and defeat the left, that is the question. Then one has to put it in action, in polite and opinion forming society.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29566846.post-79850538174771808232016-02-10T03:38:09.842-08:002016-02-10T03:38:09.842-08:00There are three obvious flaws with the ideas prese...There are three obvious flaws with the ideas presented by the PC MC group that I will address here:<br /><br />1. The West did indeed outright ban (Europe) and effectively ban (USA) both Islam and Muslims from the West for the majority of Western history. It is modern history (after the advent and adoption of Marxism and Marxist leaders in the West) that has inflicted Islam and Muslims upon the historically Christian West.<br /><br />2. The West has utterly failed to identify and eradicate the evil of Marxism which, again, has been, is, and will be a primary entry point for Islam into the West. The reality that communist Bernie Sanders is running for President and garnering votes proves that the USA lost the Cold War from within.<br /><br />3. The West will be forced to man up and fight evil inside the West. Using shaming tactics against Muslims (and Talmudic Jews) will be ineffective because their religions inure them against shame.Eggheadnoreply@blogger.com