“What is the motive of these people? ”
As we mentioned above, we all know the famous dictum of the Art of War -- “Know thine enemy”. This has a mirror image, so to speak, in the terms of the dictum of a new Art of the War of Ideas: Know thy friend -- where our “friend” is our own fellow Westerners who persist in whitewashing the problem of Islam. Surely, these fellow Westerners cannot all be dastardly Leftists with horns and tails. The way some in the Counter-Jihad demonize these Leftist “friends,” they transmogrify, through their rhetoric, into veritable enemies.
When we look more closely at the matter (and when we get out once in a while) we see that it seems that most of the Westerners who persist in whitewashing Islam are indeed “decent moms and pops like the rest of us” -- another mirror image. If cogent and if true, this is hopeful, for that means that a critical mass of the West is amenable to persuasion on this matter over time, even if they currently seem rather stubborn in their pleasantly deluded shibboleths of multiculturalism.
The motive, I say, is to protect the vast majority of Muslims whom they
anxiously think will be “tarred with a broad brush” of “bigotry” and “racism”
if one shines a light on the central motivation of Islam in attacks like these --
the same Islam that in myriad cultural & psychological ways binds all those
hundreds of millions of Muslims together into a cohesive cultural identity.
This is what I discussed in a recent
essay, A shift from Islam to Muslims.
Further anxiety is added to this
impulse by the perception that Muslims are an ethnic people (or a wonderful
diversity, tapestry, mosaic, quilt, stir-fry of ethnic peoples) -- an
ostensible fact that almost immediately triggers the PC MC hot buttons of White
Guilt and the autophobia of our own uniquely white Western tendencies
& proclivities toward “racism” and “bigotry”. The sort of tissue or mush of
thoughts and feelings that forms this point of view has apparently affected the
majority of Westerners -- on all sides of the political spectrum and throughout
all subcultural and religious persuasions -- in a kind of paradigm shift of
worldview over the past half century or so (with historical roots going back
further, of course).
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As we mentioned above, we all know the famous dictum of the Art of War -- “Know thine enemy”. This has a mirror image, so to speak, in the terms of the dictum of a new Art of the War of Ideas: Know thy friend -- where our “friend” is our own fellow Westerners who persist in whitewashing the problem of Islam. Surely, these fellow Westerners cannot all be dastardly Leftists with horns and tails. The way some in the Counter-Jihad demonize these Leftist “friends,” they transmogrify, through their rhetoric, into veritable enemies.
When we look more closely at the matter (and when we get out once in a while) we see that it seems that most of the Westerners who persist in whitewashing Islam are indeed “decent moms and pops like the rest of us” -- another mirror image. If cogent and if true, this is hopeful, for that means that a critical mass of the West is amenable to persuasion on this matter over time, even if they currently seem rather stubborn in their pleasantly deluded shibboleths of multiculturalism.
Once we get this far, we can begin to examine the behavior
of this Friend: We ask ourselves, what more precisely is this Friend doing when
he continues to indulge his reflex spasm to defend Islam? And why? I continue
to maintain that the primary motivation afoot here is a fear of “bigotry” and
“racism” (where the sneer quotes indicate an irrationally and anxiously
Orwellian perversion of actual bigotry and racism -- which indeed
should be eschewed by all good men and women). This fear, in turn, wouldn’t make sense if these PC MCs who indulge this anxiety did not racialize Islam and Muslims.
Over the years, I have noticed that the best the Counter-Jihadists can come up with to refute this primary tendency is to repeat the mantra “Islam is not a race” (often couched as a rhetorical question, “What race is Islam again…?”). The mantra by itself is good enough; but it evidently isn’t up to the task of grappling with a neurosis as deeply entrenched as PC MC is. It also glosses over the fact that whenever a person’s attention is adverted to Muslims in nearly any context, they indeed see people who “look ethnic” -- a repeated experience which even if only subliminally reinforces the racialization of the issue in which PC MCs routinely indulge.
Over the years, I have noticed that the best the Counter-Jihadists can come up with to refute this primary tendency is to repeat the mantra “Islam is not a race” (often couched as a rhetorical question, “What race is Islam again…?”). The mantra by itself is good enough; but it evidently isn’t up to the task of grappling with a neurosis as deeply entrenched as PC MC is. It also glosses over the fact that whenever a person’s attention is adverted to Muslims in nearly any context, they indeed see people who “look ethnic” -- a repeated experience which even if only subliminally reinforces the racialization of the issue in which PC MCs routinely indulge.
Knowing our friend, then, I maintain, reveals that the main
thing going on with them when they persist in defending Islam is an anxiety and
a semi-conscious fear -- the hand-wringing anxiety that worries about
succumbing to “bigotry” and “racism”. So
in their minds, the issue shifts from Islam to Muslims -- and their overriding
concern to avoid “tarring all Muslims with the same brush” -- which they fear
would happen (along with “backlash” against Muslims) if we pay too much attention
to the Islam that motivates the terrorists; for our friends know, even if only
semi-consciously, that it would be the same Islam which unites all Muslims.
Our friends thus are not demons with horns and a tail; they are relatively sincere, decent, intelligent fellow Westerners who really think they are doing the right thing by protecting Muslims from “bigotry” and “racism”.
Our friends thus are not demons with horns and a tail; they are relatively sincere, decent, intelligent fellow Westerners who really think they are doing the right thing by protecting Muslims from “bigotry” and “racism”.
Hesp/Voeg, I've just come here after looking around "Harry's Place" which I do now and then, being english and looking for some interesting links from the more aware BTL posters. "The Hesperado" is the only place where I find clear thinking about islam and muslims and the real nature of the threat they pose.
ReplyDeleteI have to hold my nose before I jump in to the very muddy waters of Harry's Place but I visit now and then to find BTL links to un- or under-reported UK islam-related news. And also of course to see what lies they're telling about us to soothe their self-misperception that they might be "bigots".
There's a lovely little example there of the conflation of race with religion/ideology where islam and muslims are concerned. One of the few counter-jihad posters there was banned on Friday by Gene, one of the moderators and as far as I know the owner of the "Harry's Place" blog. Compared to Gene, Sarah A. Brown is a beacon of clear thinking and moral intelligence ;-)
As you know, in the process of of understanding the nature of muslims and islam to call Harry's Place asymptotic would be to give them an undue compliment. They're nowhere near the y-axis yet.
Gene's reason for banning Paul? see below... (pasted her because, as you know, Harry's Place almost uniquely bans BTL comments after 7 days so that the blog remains clean of defilement by specks of truth about islam).
Paul • 2 days ago
I keep getting kicked off Disqus and I don't know why. Anyway, I'm back now. If SarahAB has banned me, please tell me and I will stop posting.
SarahAB Mod > Paul • 2 days ago
I believe someone else may have banned you.
Gene Mod > SarahAB • 2 days ago
It was me. I've banned you again. Please go away.
Andrea Collins > Gene • 2 days ago
Yes, why?
Gene Mod > Andrea Collins • 2 days ago
Because if he wrote about Jews or blacks the way he writes about Muslims, I would ban him too.
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Just a minor example of the conflation of race with religion, largely to demonstrate to the conflator himself that he isn't a bigot.
I would describe as a wilful denier of reaity anyone who spends significant time gaining an understanding of Islam and then doesn't reach the conclusion that simply by remaining or becoming a muslim, muslims have made an appalling and self-incriminating moral choice that means they cannot be trusted for the sake of our own safety to live in our societies and therefore must not allowed to reside here.
Why? Because they have chosen a religion that explicitly authorises murder, extortion, slavery, rape and so on, and recommends to them multiple ways to lie about their religion and their intentions in order to advance it.
It's this lying more than anything that ensures that no identified muslim should be allowed to reside in our societies, never mind be trusted.
It's significant that Jihadists now mostly don't feel they have to deceive us any more and state plainly that they wish to slaughter us. They have sensed that the response of the Establishments in the West is to put their fingers in their ears and shout "La-la-la-la-la!" at the tops of their voices.
Know our enemies AND our friends indeed, Voeg.
Sorrry, I should have written that Harry's place removes BTL comments after seven days, not "bans" them.
ReplyDeleteOnce I read that Socrates said that men are responsible for picking and following 'bad' religions with 'bad' results - even when men are born into those religions.
ReplyDeleteI have not been able to find a citation for that yet.
Here is an example of ridiculousness:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3308895/Missouri-football-players-boycott-support-protest.html
If a gang of white football players accosted a black university president after a football game, the narrative would be quite different....
But, the white president publicly feeds all white people to the baying dogs of racism in order to try to 'save' his own job....
Another example of non-white Yale students as an aggressive group encircling and harassing a white professor:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3309259/Yale-students-come-forward-share-experiences-campus-racism-Whites-Girls-fraternity-party-claims.html
Again, if the colors were reversed, we would hear a different narrative....
Thanks Richard James, I appreciate the support and it's nice to know someone, anyone, who has matriculated beyond Islam 101 (let alone PC MC).
ReplyDeleteI briefly took an extended swim at Harry's Place some time ago and wrote an essay here about it. It might interest you. I did so at first because Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch referenced them. When he did so, the Jihad Watch article in question mushroomed with over 100 comments (remarkable for Jihad Watch) -- and several Harry's Place regulars popped over to assure us they were good counter-jihadists. One thing I noticed about them was a glibly naive trust in Maajid Nawaz.
Harry's Place
http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2014/09/harrys-place.html
About one thing you wrote:
"It's significant that Jihadists now mostly don't feel they have to deceive us any more and state plainly that they wish to slaughter us."
I agree; though I think the jihadist "bad cops" still need their counterpart "good cops" as a foil & contrast to keep the Western Useful Idiots placated.
Thanks Hesp
ReplyDeleteI've just re-read your "Harry's Place" post - I had read it before, probably at the time you posted it, but it's been useful to read it again.
I rarely post BTL at Harry's Place because when I have my posts on Islam and Muslims were often removed.
I recently posted there in direct reply to Sarah AB who was emitting her usual vapidities about islam and muslims - Harry's Place uses Disqus which does save all one's comments at one's Disqus account even though Harry's Place deletes them at the blog after a week. I post on Disqus as "Maura Labingi".
The sub-thread was a discussion about the textual context of the "no compulsion in religion" quotation used by muslims - yes, they're mostly so low on the learning curve that they still need to discuss that...
SarahAB Mod > Mark • 11 days ago
I have no objection if people seem to be reading the Qur'an a bit selectively as long as they are sincere.
Maura Labingi > SarahAB • 11 days ago
And how will you know they're sincere, Sarah? Can you read their minds?
Sincerity, pah!
As Mark says, "The "but" comes into it when those who use that one line, know everything that surrounds it and are only using it complicitly in order to evade from the other verses that mean the absolute opposite."
Are you prepared to endanger our society on weak points like your having "no objection if people seem to be reading the Qur'an a bit selectively as long as they are sincere" despite all the evidence that Muslims practice a variety of scripturally sanctioned deceptions to advance their religion and do that with great sincerity because that is what their religion and their "Messenger of Allah" instruct?
And that's not even to mention the lethal violence.
It sounds to me like you're whistling in the dark.
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From the evidence of her posts, Professor Sarah A Brown of Anglia Ruskin University and Harry's Place is a shockingly sloppy thinker and given to posting ATL links to articles she later admits BTL that she hasn't read deeply because she's just woken up or just had her breakfast. Never mind her being one of the people who lost Britain as Spencer put it, she sometimes gives the impression that she would struggle to find her own backside in a brightly lit room.
With almost all the staff and posters at HP I get the impression that they know or suspect the truth about Islam and muslims but are striving very hard to convince themselves they are mistaken in order to preserve their need to think themselves good (=PCMC) people.
I agree absolutely with your opinion of Majid Nawaz and the rest of the supposed ex-"extremists" "good cops" at Quilliam. I think there's a huge clue in the name they chose for their foundation. I don't need to tell you that Abdullah Quilliam was an English convert to Islam, built the first mosque in Britain, argued for the establishment of a global Caliphate, swore allegiance to the Ottoman Empire, and urged muslims to fight against European powers and was often denounced as a traitor. One of the foundation's publicly stated aims is "to make Islam at home in Britain and Europe".
Just choosing Quilliam as their figurehead suggests the real agenda of Maajid Nawaz and his friends at the Foundation. If I may adapt your designation of Nawaz, oily snakes indeed. Oily snakes engaged in the usual muslim strategy of trusting us not to examine too closely what they say and do.
Thanks again, Richard James - very interesting stuff about HP.
ReplyDelete"With almost all the staff and posters at HP I get the impression that they know or suspect the truth about Islam and muslims but are striving very hard to convince themselves they are mistaken in order to preserve their need to think themselves good (=PCMC) people."
Yes, that's the psychology of what I have called the "asymptotic" counter-jihadist -- by a curious paradox, their very increasing awareness of the problem causes an internal reaction of denial. In a way, I'd say the asymptotics are more incoherent in their denial than are the PC MCs, if only because the degree of artful mental gymnastics is necessarily higher, given their superior awareness. Why they would feel the need to do these gymnastics points to the only reasonable explanation we can come up with -- namely that for some reason they harbor higher residues of PC MC in their minds than do those of us who don't feel the need to flex into yoga pretzels in order to assuage our anxiety about being "bigoted" and "racist" and "tarring all Muslims with one brush", etc.
"I think there's a huge clue in the name they chose for their foundation. I don't need to tell you that Abdullah Quilliam was an English convert to Islam, built the first mosque in Britain, argued for the establishment of a global Caliphate, swore allegiance to the Ottoman Empire, and urged muslims to fight against European powers and was often denounced as a traitor."
Yes indeed, and another unflattering fact of his biography: he urged Muslims to oppose the British government for its opposition to a jihadist movement in the Sudan that in its day was rampaging around much like ISIS.
"Just choosing Quilliam as their figurehead suggests the real agenda of Maajid Nawaz and his friends at the Foundation."
Not only that, but it is reasonable to suppose that Maajid chose that name in order to gloat secretly at how stupid the kuffar in the Counter-Jihad are, that they would partner with him even after he chose such a brazenly immoderate name for his Foundation. "Jihading in plain sight"...
And, as always, there is the problem of 'who is paying whom to say what?'
ReplyDeleteGoV has significant Jewish writers and donators who are effectively paying GoV to ignore and/or dilute inconvenient information about the Jewish contribution to the rise of Islam - even banning related comments.
My 2nd to last comment disappeared. What I said was that, once people question Islam, they also question the roles of Jews and blacks facilitating the rise of Islam. And most whites know more Jews and blacks than Muslims, so that can be highly discomfiting. How very inconvenient is the history that Jews and Africans ran the slave trade with Muslims?
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