Wednesday, September 24, 2008
What a tangled cobweb we weave: Let the sun shine in.
More thoughts on my last post:
The Anti-Islam Movement has developed a rather convoluted cat’s-cradle of gentlemen’s agreements to mutual silence.
Let us tease out some of the threads of this complex skein:
* Robert Spencer remains silent on Diana West’s support of Filip Dewinter and Vlaams Belang.
* GOV/Fjordman remain silent on Robert Spencer’s silence on Diana West’s support of Filip Dewinter and Vlaams Belang.
* Also, GOV/Fjordman remain silent on Spencer’s McCarthyesque insinuations of guilty-until-proven innocent “fascist connections” that keep him from supporting Filip Dewinter and Vlaams Belang and the pro-Cologne movement. And, of course, GOV/Fjordman continue to support Spencer.
* In addition, Diana West remains silent on Spencer’s betrayal of Filip Dewinter and Vlaams Belang and the pro-Cologne movement. And she too continues to support Spencer.
* Spencer on his side continues to support Diana West and Fjordman, yet remains silent on Charles Johnson’s egregious condemnations of Diana West and hostility towards Fjordman (not to mention his egregious condemnation of Filip Dewinter, Vlaams Belang, the pro-Cologne movement, and many others he has smeared with the label “fascist”).
* Meanwhile GOV/Fjordman for their part remain silent on Spencer’s silence on Charles Johnson.
What a tangled cobweb we weave! The Anti-Islam Movement seriously needs to pull back the drapes, open wide the bay windows, breathe deeply the fresh air coming in, and let the bright sunshine of frank, honest, clear and rational discussion shine on all these intricate cobwebs that have been festering and building up.Update:
Some of the key players responded to a comment of mine on GOV from which the above was taken after a bit of polishing up:
A GOV reader and supporter, “henrik r clausen”, wrote:
Erich, I think the silences serve purposes. One is to abstain from potentially stupid personal squabbles. One is to be silent on issues where one does not have complete knowledge. And one is to focus on the real issues, facing up to totalitarian Islam.
I'm sick of little squabbles and prefer to get on with our job. Bigots like CJ can be left behind, as they contribute nothing of value, merely dissent.
Then perhaps the most doggedly single-minded supporter of Spencer, “awake” (with whom I have had innumerable exchanges, both in comments fields on my retired blog Jihad Watch Watch as well as in a private email blitz he created, enlisting the cooperation of Spencer himself, both of whom indulged in childish and torturous abuses of elementary logic that took me literally hours to unscramble patiently for them while avoiding the snippy insults and ad hominems they levelled at me), wrote:
Erich appears to be sowing the seeds of discontent between major players in the anti-Islam movement again, and also seems to insinuate that the movement is fractured in the absence of a monolithic mindset, namely his very own.
What he is attempting to achieve I still fail to realize, although I am quite confident to date that his results have been negligible.
Then the GOV head, “baron bodissey”, wrote
Time to cool your jets, Flash.
You mistake tact for "silence". I don't fight publicly with that I consider to be basically on the same side as I am. Charles Johnson was an exception (and to a lesser extent, Pastorius) because he absolutely insisted on a fight. But even that was limited in scope and duration, on our end.
You don't know what goes on in private conversations, nor should you. Our cause is not served by public intramural squabbles, and I won't engage in any, if I have a choice.
Finally, Fjordman weighed in:
Awake: You are right, Erich doesn't achieve much. But that doesn't mean he isn't annoying.
I then responded to the only pertinent points from the aforementioned:
"One is to be silent on issues where one does not have complete knowledge."
Spencer is not following this piece of advice from you, since he pronounces upon Filip Dewinter and Vlaams Belang while obviously not having complete knowledge which is available (for example in the fine essays by Christine over at the 910 group).
You confuse reasonable and mature criticism with "fighting" and "squabbles", as though there is no difference.
I am not calling on people to "fight" Spencer, nor to have "squabbles" with him. It is absurd to think that there should not be criticism of Spencer on certain points from within the Anti-Islam Movement. Not only does such absurdity demonstrate a childish fear of criticism, it serves to suppress one of the main virtues of Western civilization by which individuals, groups and ideas progress: the openness toward internal criticism.