Friday, July 23, 2010
Wildersianism (the new Wilsonianism) and the distinction between Islam and Muslims
An interesting discussion has ensued in a recent thread at Jihad Watch on Geert Wilders, titled Why is Geert Wilders "anti-Islam," and what is his message to the Muslims?
That thread has generated a remarkable number of nearly 250 comments to date (though teetering on the brink of falling into the Chasm of Archives as it is, it is likely that number has plateaued).
To sift out the interesting exchanges I have had with other commenters there -- chiefly on the subject of the specious distinction between Islam and Muslims (a distinction at the heart of the new Wilsonianism I call Wildersianism) -- simply go to the above-linked thread and search for "hesperado" to find my comments and the comments of those responding to me, then my counter-responses to them, etc.
The discussion has in certain interesting ways moved onto a more recent thread -- Ibn Warraq: "It's no good pretending that somehow the real Islam is tolerant, the real Islam is feminist, and so on". In this thread, aside from searching for "hesperado", the reader should also search for "kilian klaiber" -- for strangely enough, his comments mirror the defenses against me by other Jihad Watchers in the previous thread, even though here in this thread Jihad Watchers take him to task for seemingly approximately the same sentiments and argumentation they (or their confreres) deployed against me.