Saturday, June 17, 2017

Hesperado Podcast #15: "Mountain of data" Part 2...


"If you can't bring the mountain to Mohammed..."



13 comments:

Steve12 said...

Thank God this podcast got to differences between adjectives and

Still AWFUL at this. Digression, digression, digression. Saying "anywho" over and over doesn't help.


This list is just not compelling t any of the points you want to make for many reasons, but also because I can assemble this list for the West as well.

Here's a list of 55000 acts of violence committed by the West on Muslims. Not every bomb kiills an ISIS member - many civilians are dying as well:
http://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/687786/af-senior-leaders-brief-state-of-the-air-force/

But this list is longer. Hospitals, kids, on and on:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/

What about these? So our armies go over and light children on fire, but that list doesn't count? From 1953 in Iran, to the sanctions that killed millions, to the first Iraq war, to the second. Afganistan, operations now in Yemen and the starvation it invited.

In fact, is we simply want to total lists of violent outcomes, the West has killed many, many, many times the Muslims than vice versa.

MILLIONS of Mulsims dead at the hands of the West. Why doesn't this list count? Maybe because you confirmation bias makes you only count the lists that are convenient to your point?

So there goes that argument...


And finally, you lecturing others on sophistry is so inronic!!!! HOLY SHT! You are a humanities BS sophist if ever there were one. You're the fucking definition for chrissakes, so that's funny shit right there....WOW.

Steve12 said...

And you can try and ignore me all you like, I know you're reading.

And we both know you're not replying because you can't refute and of my points, nor can you defend yours.

Happy Dad's day!

Steve12 said...

Should be:

"Thank God this podcast got to differences between adjectives and nouns"

Don't know what happened there, but I pretty much ruined my joke.

Anonymous said...

The universalism of Islam, in its all-embracing creed, is imposed on the believers as a continuous process of warfare, psychological and political, if not strictly military. . . . TheJihad, accordingly, may be stated as a doctrine of a permanent state of war, not continuous fighting.” — Majid Khadduri

Steve12 said...

"The universalism of Islam, in its all-embracing creed, is imposed on the believers as a continuous process of warfare, psychological and political, if not strictly military. . . . TheJihad, accordingly, may be stated as a doctrine of a permanent state of war, not continuous fighting.”— Majid Khadduri
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Luckily theres nothing like this in Christianity, or we'd be in big trouble!

From Deuteronomy 17:
2 If there is found among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, and transgresses his covenant 3 by going to serve other gods and worshiping them—whether the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have forbidden— 4 and if it is reported to you or you hear of it, and you make a thorough inquiry, and the charge is proved true that such an abhorrent thing has occurred in Israel, 5 then you shall bring out to your gates that man or that woman who has committed this crime and you shall stone the man or woman to death. 20 But any prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, or who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded the prophet to speak—that prophet shall die.”

Anonymous said...

Muslims, and especially the learned among them, should spread Shari’a law to the world — that and nothing else. Not laws under the “umbrella of justice, morality, and rights” as understood by the masses. No, the Shari’a of Islam is the foundation. … In fact, Muslims are obligated to raid the lands of the infidels, occupy them, and exchange their system of governance for an Islamic system, barring any practice that contradicts Shari’a from being publicly voiced among the people, as was the case in the dawn of Islam. … They say that our Shari’a does not impose our particular beliefs upon others; this is a false assertion. For it is, in fact, part of our religion to impose our particular beliefs upon others. … Thus whoever refuses the principle of terror[ism] against the enemy also refuses the commandment of Allah the Exalted, the Most High, and His Shari’a. - Osama bin Laden

Anonymous said...

“In war our main objective is the opponent’s heart or soul, our main weapon of offence against this objective is the strength of our own souls, and to launch such an attack, we have to keep terror away from our own hearts… Terror struck into the hearts of the enemies is not only a means, it is the end itself. Once a condition of terror into the opponent’s heart is obtained, hardly anything is left to be achieved. It is the point where the means and the end meet and merge. Terror is not a means of imposing decision on the enemy; it is the decision we wish to impose on him.” The Quranic Concept of War

Anonymous said...

"It (terror) can be instilled only if the opponent's faith is destroyed...To instill terror into the hearts of the enemy, it is essential, in the ultimate analysis, to dislocate his Faith" The Quranic Concept of War

Anonymous said...

The Quranic strategy comes into to play from the preparation stage, and aims at imposing a direct decision upon the enemy. Other things remaining the same, our preparation for war is the true index of our performance during war. We must aim at creating a wholesome respect for our Cause and our will and determination to attain it, in the minds of the enemies, well before facing them on the field of battle. So spirited, zealous, complete and thorough should be our preparation for war that we should enter upon the ‘war of muscles’ having already won the ‘war of will’. Only a strategy that aims at striking terror into the hearts of the enemies from the preparation stage can produce direct results and turn Liddell Hart’s dream into a reality. To instill terror into the hearts of the enemy is essential in the ultimate analysis to dislocate his faith. An invincible faith is immune to terror. A weak faith offers inroads to terror. The Quranic Concept of War

Steve12 said...

I love the smell of sock puppetry in the morning. Or at night....

All of these dopey books have all kinds of calls to horrific behavior. It's the conditions of the society that determine whether or not the calls are heeded.

And that goes for ignoring the calls to good behavior as well. Our country (especially the military) is filled with "Good Christians" (TM) who think it's perfectly fine to roast thousands upon thousands of Muslim babies.

Interpretations of religious texts = horseshit for these purposes. There is of course scholarly and historical value, but the text is regularly ignored/embraced in totally self serving and dynamic fashion

Hesperado said...

I believe the "Anonymous" poster above is quoting excerpts from The Quranic Concept of War, by Brigadier General S. K. Malik of the Pakistani Army, Originally published in Pakistan in 1979.

More here:

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/01/the-quranic-concept-of-war

Steve12 said...

Thanks - but I assumed that this was not the Koran, but someone's interpretations. Which I mentioned above.


Egghead said...

Hey Steve,

Let's narrow the thesis: Muslims are an existential threat to clitorises.

Among other topics (like how the Muslim infiltration dynamic is simply copying the Jewish infiltration dynamic), Gates of Vienna came to a point of censoring my comments about the demonstrable Muslim threat to clitorises - which was very curious and disheartening since over half the world has clitorises - legitimately billions in this case!

Plenty of objective evidence supports my claim - and the Muslim 'War on Clitorises' (TM) both well and truly predates colonialism and modern Western meddling in Muslim lands.

The modern West needs to expel barbarous Islam so that (as the Muslim Obama would promise and renig):

If you like your clitoris, you can keep your clitoris.

P.S. I bet you're a real dick. Wink! :)