Monday, June 20, 2016

A footnote to history on one of the four pillars of the West -- the "Graeco-" in Graeco-Roman Judaeo-Christian

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The abstract of the essay On Being is a priceless document because it has preserved one of the earliest, if not the very first, instance of the perennial type of enlightened philosophizing. The thinker operates on symbols that have been developed by mystic-philosophers for the expression of experiences of transcendence. 

He proceeds by ignoring the experiential basis, separates the symbols from this basis as if they had a meaning independent of the experience which they express, and with brilliant logic shows, what every philosopher knows, that they will lead to contradictions if they are misunderstood as propositions about objects in world-immanent experience. Gorgias [an early Sophist who disputed with Plato's teacher, Socrates] applied his acumen to the Parmenidean Being; but the same type of argument could be applied to other symbols of transcendence, and the set of three propositions about the gods are probably the summary of such an argument.   

If we assume the Gorgian tract to be representative of the sophistic attitude toward problems of transcendence, and if, furthermore, we define enlightenment by the type of philosophizing just characterized, we can arrive at some clearness with regard to the question whether the sophistic age can justly be labelled an age of enlightenment. We may say that the age indeed has a streak of enlightenment in so far as its representative thinkers show the same kind of insensitiveness toward experiences of transcendence that was characteristic of the Enlightenment of the eighteenth century A.D., and in so far as this insensitiveness has the same result of destroying philosophy — for philosophy by definition has its center in the experiences of transcendence. 

Moreover, the essentially unphilosophical character of sophistic writings may have been the most important cause of their almost complete disappearance in spite of the impressive collection and organization of materials which they must have contained. For the materials could be taken over by later writers and, stripped of the materials, the writings held no interest for philosophers. And, finally, we can understand more clearly why Plato concentrated the essence of his own philosophizing in an emphatic counter-formula to the Protagorean homo mensura [“Man is the measure of all things”]. After the destruction of philosophy through the sophists, its reconstruction had to stress the Deus mensura [“God is the measure of all things”] of the philosophers; and the new philosophy had to be clearly a "type of theology." [as Plato formulated it in The Republic; indeed Plato coined the word itself, “theology”].

Eric Voegelin 
Order and History, volume 2
p. 275

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

'Judaeo-Christian' is a term used principally by the enemies of Western Civilisation; 'Judaism', which has been based on the Mishnah and Gemarra, out of which grew the Talmud, for over two thousand years, rejects the Mosaic Law which included the Ten Commandments, the Jews' main 'claim' to be part of Western Civilisation.

Egghead said...

The problem is that, even IF Jews did follow the Ten Commandments, the Talmud defines and disparages non-Jews as 'non-humans.'

So, thou shalt not steal (from humans) would be a problem for non-Jews where Jews deny the fundamental humanity of non-Jews for the purpose of enforcing the rule of law.

Hesperado said...

Read Eric Voegelin's first volume -- Israel and Revelation -- of the above-referenced series for the reasons why to include "Judaeo". This also assumes that one doesn't have to fuse inter-testamental + medieval Judaism with Israel to still use the prefix "Judaeo-". In a Voegelinian sense, inter-testamental + medieval Judaism would reflect a philosophical retardation of the advancement in differentiation represented by Christianity.

Egghead said...

The ONLY pillar of the West is Jesus who came to save the Jews from themselves - and to save other people in the world from destructive Jews! Without white Western Christians, the West will literally cease to exist.

Jesus came to Jews because Jews REALLY needed - and still need - saving!

'There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

'And if ye be Christ's, then are ye one in Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.'

Galatians 3:28-29 King James Bible

As I tried to explain to the owners of GoV, the white Christian West is what WAS and IS being COERCIVELY and FORCIBLY changed by Jews to be a non-white non-Christian non-West ruled by Jews for Jews.

Who knows Judaism and its symbols better than Jews who have been and are implementing its rule upon the white Christian West?!

With all due respect based on a very cursory reading, it appears that Voeglin approached Judaism from a white Western Christian interpretation as to what symbols were - and are - important to Jews.

Egghead said...

Correction: Voegelin

Egghead said...

If the Jews' 'West' were truly the same as the white Christian West, then there would have been a negligible difference through the ages - and also now - when Jews were allowed and enabled to assume ever increasing numbers of power positions in the West.

But, the more power that Jews accrue, the more obvious it is that the Jews fully intend to destroy ALL salient features of the white Christian West.

The honest question: Do Jews dream dreams, set goals, and produce outcomes that support and benefit white Christian Westerners in the Jewish non-West?!

Egghead said...

The people are expected to hold the rulers to account for their failures.

By all rights, white Western Christians should question now ruling Western Jews about their abject failure to provide spiritual, intellectual, economic, and physical safety for white Western Christians - especially given the current catastrophic situation of Middle Eastern Christians.

Egghead said...

These two articles are interesting:

http://www.crisismagazine.com/1990/the-new-gnosticism-the-philosopher-eric-voegelin-finds-an-old-christian-heresy-to-be-very-much-alive

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2016/christians-blamed-islamic-terrorism